| [NEWS] - Trek United Pulls Plug [message #1550] |
Mo, 18 April 2005 17:22 |
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Trek United Pulls Plug
Organizers of Trek United, the fan fund-raising campaign to bring Star
Trek: Enterprise back for a fifth season, abruptly pulled the plug on
their effort amid mounting reports questioning the group's
credibility. Tim Brazeal, the Tennessee-based fan in charge of Trek
United, posted on the group's message board that the group's proposal
to fund a fifth season of the canceled Enterprise was rejected by
Paramount, which produces the show.
"Our final proposal was knocked down by Paramount," Brazeal posted on
April 17. "We will not see a season five for Star Trek: Enterprise.
All money as I stated earlier will be refunded starting Monday or
Tuesday of this week. We will not allow people bashing our efforts on
our own forums. Please keep in mind that our members are fans just
like you are."
Late last week, the group had asserted that a self-described Canadian
TV producer named "Al Vinci" was spearheading the group's proposal to
Paramount to co-finance a new season of Enterprise with an unnamed
group of investors and by moving production to Canada. The group
declined to identify with whom Vinci had been negotiating at
Paramount. For its part, Paramount has steadfastly denied that any
talks were underway.
On Sunday, Brazeal abruptly announced the end of the campaign in a
chat with fans expecting more news about the effort. "For the members
that have supported us, thank you," he wrote. "We are all winners. We
had the dream that we could make this happen. Trek United will
continue to be here, and we will explore new ideas, but the fan
donation part if it has made the point we intended it to."
News stories on several SF Web sites, including Sy Fy Portal, have
called Brazeal's assertions and financial dealings into question.
Brazeal has defended his actions as legal and above-board on Trek
United 's message boards. SCI FI Wire could not reach Brazeal to
comment on the announcement as of Sunday evening.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Trek United Pulls Plug [message #1557 ] |
Mo, 18 April 2005 19:25 |
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Stan Jensen wrote:
> TV producer named "Al Vinci" was spearheading the group's proposal to
> Paramount to co-finance a new season of Enterprise
I just wonder if they would have tried the same thing with Voyager?
(I think they or someone would have, which proves that people will try
to keep any Trek on the air no matter how bad it is.)
--
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall
pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend,
oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of
liberty. This much we pledge—and more.
- President John F. Kennedy, Jan. 20, 1961
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| Re: [NEWS] - Trek United Pulls Plug [message #1558 ] |
Mo, 18 April 2005 19:27 |
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Nobody wrote:
> Stan Jensen wrote:
>
>> TV producer named "Al Vinci" was spearheading the group's proposal to
>> Paramount to co-finance a new season of Enterprise
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>
> I just wonder if they would have tried the same thing with Voyager?
>
> (I think they or someone would have, which proves that people will try
> to keep any Trek on the air no matter how bad it is.)
>
*Was*. ENT was improving dramatically, and it's a shame it didn't get
more of a chance under Coto's mentorship. :-(
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| Re: [NEWS] - Trek United Pulls Plug [message #1565 ] |
Mo, 18 April 2005 21:59 |
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Unfortunately, as improved as the show was this year, it's how many butts
are in their couches watching your show that counts. Arrested Developement,
the best comedy out there and winner of last year's best comedy Emmy, is
currently on the bubble for next season due to ok-but-not-GREAT ratings.
"Stan Jensen" <spam [at] wonderful.spam> wrote in message
news:itj761dsj5hu8gq0mveeheieoqc4ii54ri [at] 4ax.com...
> Trek United Pulls Plug
>
> Organizers of Trek United, the fan fund-raising campaign to bring Star
> Trek: Enterprise back for a fifth season, abruptly pulled the plug on
> their effort amid mounting reports questioning the group's
> credibility. Tim Brazeal, the Tennessee-based fan in charge of Trek
> United, posted on the group's message board that the group's proposal
> to fund a fifth season of the canceled Enterprise was rejected by
> Paramount, which produces the show.
>
> "Our final proposal was knocked down by Paramount," Brazeal posted on
> April 17. "We will not see a season five for Star Trek: Enterprise.
> All money as I stated earlier will be refunded starting Monday or
> Tuesday of this week. We will not allow people bashing our efforts on
> our own forums. Please keep in mind that our members are fans just
> like you are."
>
> Late last week, the group had asserted that a self-described Canadian
> TV producer named "Al Vinci" was spearheading the group's proposal to
> Paramount to co-finance a new season of Enterprise with an unnamed
> group of investors and by moving production to Canada. The group
> declined to identify with whom Vinci had been negotiating at
> Paramount. For its part, Paramount has steadfastly denied that any
> talks were underway.
>
> On Sunday, Brazeal abruptly announced the end of the campaign in a
> chat with fans expecting more news about the effort. "For the members
> that have supported us, thank you," he wrote. "We are all winners. We
> had the dream that we could make this happen. Trek United will
> continue to be here, and we will explore new ideas, but the fan
> donation part if it has made the point we intended it to."
>
> News stories on several SF Web sites, including Sy Fy Portal, have
> called Brazeal's assertions and financial dealings into question.
> Brazeal has defended his actions as legal and above-board on Trek
> United 's message boards. SCI FI Wire could not reach Brazeal to
> comment on the announcement as of Sunday evening.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Trek United Pulls Plug [message #1569 ] |
Mo, 18 April 2005 22:45 |
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> Unfortunately, as improved as the show was this year, it's how many butts
> are in their couches watching your show that counts.
Most diehard Trek fans have three buttocks. That's gotta count for
something.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Trek United Pulls Plug [message #1570 ] |
Mo, 18 April 2005 22:48 |
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In article <pfU8e.71434$UW6.28198 [at] bignews5.bellsouth.net>, "Benjamin
Pavsner" <pavsnerp [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Unfortunately, as improved as the show was this year, it's how many butts
> are in their couches watching your show that counts. Arrested Developement,
> the best comedy out there and winner of last year's best comedy Emmy, is
> currently on the bubble for next season due to ok-but-not-GREAT ratings.
Many awards are given by the industry and critics, and they rarely
reflect actual public opinion.
For a SLIGHTLY better idea of what the public watch you need to go to
something like People's Choice Awards ... although even then they have
a process similar to the silly Ratings and so still doesn't mean much
in reality.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Trek United Pulls Plug [message #1571 ] |
Mo, 18 April 2005 23:19 |
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| Re: [NEWS] - Trek United Pulls Plug [message #1573 ] |
Mo, 18 April 2005 23:46 |
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Nobody wrote:
> Stan Jensen wrote:
>
> > TV producer named "Al Vinci" was spearheading the group's proposal to
> > Paramount to co-finance a new season of Enterprise
>
> I just wonder if they would have tried the same thing with Voyager?
>
> (I think they or someone would have, which proves that people will try
> to keep any Trek on the air no matter how bad it is.)
See the thing is those people consider it to be good which is why they're
trying to save it. It's called having an opinion different than your own.
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| Re: [NEWS] - Trek United Pulls Plug [message #1574 ] |
Di, 19 April 2005 00:03 |
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David B wrote:
> See the thing is those people consider it to be good which is why they're
> trying to save it. It's called having an opinion different than your own.
They're in the minority.
I think they would try to save it even if *THEY* also thought it was
crap. To some Star Trek is a religion they want to force on everyone.
And that's *my* opinion.
--
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall
pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend,
oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of
liberty. This much we pledge—and more.
- President John F. Kennedy, Jan. 20, 1961
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| Re: [NEWS] - Trek United Pulls Plug [message #1586 ] |
Di, 19 April 2005 08:09 |
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In article <180420051719197130%sky.diver [at] moonbase.alpha>, Straker
<sky.diver [at] moonbase.alpha> wrote:
> In article <190420050848450042%anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com>, Anybody
> <anybody [at] anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
>
> > Many awards are given by the industry and critics, and they rarely
> > reflect actual public opinion.
> >
> > For a SLIGHTLY better idea of what the public watch you need to go to
> > something like People's Choice Awards
>
> In which case, Enterprise is screwed. In four years, it was never
> nominated for so much as a single People's Choice Award.
That's just more proof that it was destined to be cancelled. ;-)
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